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December 8, 2003 Update:  "Greene County still needs recreation"

It was about a year ago that Greene County officials abandoned plans to build an all-terrain vehicle trail in the West Greene area because a number of vocal residents said they didn't want their tax dollars to be put toward the development of an ATV trail and questioned if the project was really a proper function of government.

Others were skeptical about the supposed economic benefits the trail would bring.

Then the county refocused its efforts on 450 acres of land north of Greensboro that included the coal refuse site of the former Warwick Mine.

Three public meetings later, it became evident the opposition in the southeastern part of the count was just as strong as that expressed in the west.

Up to that point, we supported, at least in principle, the implementation of an ATV trail, believing such a recreational project has potential to favorably affect the county's economy.

We underestimated how passionate the resistance of residents to having an ATV trail in their backyard was.

They wanted their community to remain as it is: quiet and peaceful, the air not filled with dust or the constant whine of ATV engines.

Well, they won.

The county has eliminated the position of "AtV specialist" and will not include the ATV recreational line item of $400,000 in its 2004 budget.

The new board of commissioners is unanimous in its opposition to proceeding with developing a trail.

Commissioner Scott Blair, who was defeated in November, spearheaded the project from the beginning.

We don't know whether his loss to the fellow Republican John Gardner had anything to do with his support of the project, but we do know recreational projects, perhaps not as ambitious as the ATV trail, are needed.

We would hope that Blair, soon to return to the private sector, would not give up on his vision to provide an unique enterprise that could provide an economic benefit to Greene County.


(Source: Observer-Reported 12/8/03)

October 6, 2003 Update:  "Can the county save the ATV plan?"

It was only last week, at the 3rd & final meeting on Greene County's plan to build an all-terrain vehicle trail in Monongahela Township, that real opposition to the project became evident.

The series of meetings had been held to review a feasibility study to develop the trail on 450 acres of land north of Greensboro that include the coal refuse site of the former Warwick Mine.

Project Sponsors: Scott Blair, Greene County Commissioner; Greene County Dept of Parks and Recreation; Greene County Dept of Planning and Development; Parsons, Brinckerhoff, etc; Delta Development; Toal Law; DCNR

Purpose: investigate feasibility of ATV recreational area in southeastern Greene County.

"JUDGING FROM COMMENTS FROM THIS MEETING, IT APPEARS MANY
PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY SIMPLY DON'T WANT AN ATV
TRAIL IN THEIR BACKYARD!"

The first two public meetings, held at the Greene County Fairgrounds in Waynesburg, drew questions from those in attendance but failed to elicit either strong support or strong opposition to the plan.

That certainly wasn't the case for the third meeting held in the community that would host the trail.

They want their community to remain as it is, quiet and peaceful, the air not filled with dust or the constant whine of ATV engines.

Commissioner Scott Blair, who has spearheaded the project, told the audience he believes the trail will give a much-needed boost to the local economony, which in this corner of the county, most would agree, died with the closing of the area coal mines.

But he also told those in attendance "that if people in this community are against the trail, the county wouldn't force it on them."

So, where does that leave us in regard to the future of ATV Project?

The county could simply drop plans to build the trail near Greensboro and find another site. Blair has said other local officials have expressed an interest in having the trail in their communities.

It also could hold out making a decision on the Greensboro site until it better refines its plans and tries to work with those in the community who are for and against it.

The feasibility study does, after all, propose an extensive plan with three phases that include not only a trail, but also a track, campgrounds and coal heritage museum. Many people may have judged the project based on this proposed grand design.

It's possible a pared-down project that would, for example, just include a trail and a few other amenities that might be more acceptable to residents.

It also might be that more needs to be done by the county to sell the project, which means not only focusing on its benefits but also allaying residents' concerns.

We tend to think no matter where they decide to build an ATV trail in Greene County, someone will be there to oppose it. At some point, county officials will just have to gauge the political winds and make a decision on the project.

The decision could lead to something that is later determined to be all wrong for the county and the host community. Or it could be good.

We know if initial opposition was the determining factor in all such decisions, Greene County would, for example, have passed on the State Correctional Institution at Greene, which most people will agree has been a real benefit to the county's economy.


(Source: Observer-Reported 10/6/03)

September 30, 2003 Update:  "Public input sought on ATV Trail"

County officials might be better might be better able to guage public sentiment toward development of an all-terrain vehicle in southeastern Green County following tonight's public meeting on the project feasibility study.

The third and final meeting to be held as part of the preparation of the study has been scheduled for 7:00pm in the Greensboro fire hall.

Two previous public meetings, in June and August, drew a number of question sfrom those in the audience but failed to elicit either strong support or strong opposition to the plan.

"The meetings present the opportunity to get feedback from the community," Commissioner Scott Blair said. Though feedback has so far been relatively positive, Blair said, a few people also have expressed opposition to the plan.

"We want to sell this on its own merit; we're not trying to force it on anyone," Blair said. It's important the county hear from residents and get a chance to address their concerns, he said.

"If we're coming into your community, we want to be a good neighbor," Blair said. "If it's something poeple down there really don't want we'll have to look somewhere else." Several townships have expressed interest in the project, he said.

Plans included in the feasibility study prepared by Parsons, Brinckerhoff Quade and Douglas Inc., call for the trail to be established on about 450 acres of land just north of Greensboro.

The site includes the former Warwick Mine property and several parcels now under private ownership. The property is bordered to the east by the Monogahela River; to the south by Route 2014; to the west by a buff zone off Route 88; and to the north by Alicia.

The project would include a riding trail, hill climb area and possibly camping and picnic areas and a coal heritage museum.

Michael Babusci of Parsons, Brinckerhoff said the project would probably be developed in phases. The first would include establishment of a 15-mile trail that would snake its way through a wooded area on the property. The second phase could entail development of a 10-mile riding trail.

Babusci said it is also hoped the proposed site will serve as a "trail head" and eventually be extended beyond its boundaries by property owners who recognize its benefits.

The development of an ATV trail is being considered primarily for two reasons, according to Commissioner Blair. One is to provide a place for ATV enthusiasts to ride and the other is for economic growth to Greene County.


(Source: Observer-Reported 9/30/03)

June 19, 2003 Update:  "Public hearing on ATV trail Thursday"

WAYNESBURG - Planners canvassed all of Greene County in their search for the most appropriate site to construct an all-terrain vehicle trail.

After about a year, the search has finally concentrated on the old (Warwick Mine) "related info 1 2 " property north of Greensboro. A public meeting to give nearby residents a chance to comment on the idea will be held at 7 p.m. Thursday at Greene County Fairgrounds, Building 10.

Thus far, the plan to build an ATV trail across the property, which is owned by Duquesne Light Co., has attracted mostly support from the neighbors, according to Greene County Commissioner Scott Blair. Several adjacent property owners offered right-of-way easements so that the trail can extend across their land, he said.

Nevertheless, Blair, who has been the driving force behind the ATV trail, said Tuesday that the county is in preliminary stages of trail development. And if the trail encounters enough public opposition, it may not make it to a subsequent stage.

"I really don't know if we'll be able to get enough positive public support to justify going any further with this," Blair said.

If the plan does come to fruition though, Blair said that Greene County will hold a strong source of economic development in an area that really needs it.

"That site really has a lot of potential," he said. "And I know that if we could just do it, and build the trail, it would be a huge economic boon to the county."

Places for people to legally enjoy their ATVs, which have swelled in popularity in recent years, are scarce throughout the state. Allegheny National Forest in Central Pennsylvania touts an expansive network of ATV trails. As a result, restaurants, camping facilities, hotels and other businesses have opened in significant numbers to cash in on the ATV riders, Blair said.

While the proposed ATV trail in Greene County is being planned on a much smaller scale, the commissioner said that a similar type of progress should happen here.

In recent years, the state Department of Community and Economic Development has tried to take the emphasis for ATV trail development away from the state and national forests and into the hands of municipalities, counties and other bodies. The department supplemented their encouragement with several grants, which are funded through registration fees incurred annually against owners of ATVs and snowmobiles.

Last year, Greene County received its share of the money - $80,000 for feasibility studies - mainly to determine where the trail should be located.

The county initially considered the West Greene area as a viable place to build the ATV trail. In November 2001, commissioners purchased over 83 acres near Ryerson Station State Park, for the purpose of building an ATV facility.

Commissioners abandoned those plans after Ryerson Park officials and nearby residents voiced concerns over noise levels. Last October, they agreed to start the process of auctioning off the parcel.


(Source: Observer-Reported 6/19/03 by Cara Host)



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